I was chatting with Royal Patron today, telling him all about the Wust visit, and that reminded me of a couple things I wanted to bring up here.
Much as Wusterhausen today is called "Königs Wusterhausen" to differentiate it from other places bearing the name, Wust today is "Wust-Fischbeck", as there are other Wusts as well.
From what I've seen in my rather obsessive research of Wust, it's called that because Wust is no longer a municipality, but was merged with Fischbeck to become Wust-Fischbeck. Wikipedia tells me the merger happened in 2010.
So I was showing RP a couple pictures of the crypt (solely so he could appreciate the difficulty of getting that shot of the piece of paper in Katte's coffin lid and so he could know how much you went above and beyond when it came to satisfying my desire for pictures <3), and explaining how everyone got elaborate sarcophagi and Hans Hermann still has the plain wooden box of a condemned criminal.
And that reminded me that I'd been meaning to ask what was up with that.
Not transferring him to a sarcophagus before 1740, well and good. Not having the time to do it between May 1740 and May 1741, especially with the war on starting November/December 1740, sure.
Ludolf, and especially his heirs who are perfectly fine with people collecting Hans Hermann vertebrae and teeth as souvenirs, I expect nothing less of them.
But what about Bredow stepmom, who apparently made sure both her duel-murdering sons and herself got elaborate tombs placed just so, with her next to her long-dead husband and the sons on either side of the wives? (Far, far apart, as I always notice. :P)
Why didn't stepmom go, "Oh, and oldest stepson who's the reason the new King keeps favoring our family, maybe he should get a nice tomb too"? She had 14 years in which to do that.
Now, personally, *I* actually don't mind that Hans Hermann's coffin is plain, wooden, and stashed in a corner. On aesthetic grounds, it sets him apart, and it reminds me of Küstrin, which gives me feels. (Also, aesthetically, remember that I prefer Wusterhausen to any of the other palaces. :P)
But for someone who knew and (presumably?) loved him, judging by that final letter (though you have to consider the genre), and Prussian honor culture being what it was, I'm surprised that someone who did care enough about elaborate tombs to get one herself and/or for her sons (depending on who made what decision for whom), didn't also decide that Hans Hermann deserved to join the rest of the family in posthumous style, once the King would have been cool with it.
Am trying to figure out Hans Hermann/stepmom dynamics, for that fic where he goes back to visit her when Hans Heinrich is dying, and again when dueling half-brothers kill each other.
Did one of the male members of the family veto it? And if so, why?
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Date: 2020-08-30 09:01 pm (UTC)Much as Wusterhausen today is called "Königs Wusterhausen" to differentiate it from other places bearing the name, Wust today is "Wust-Fischbeck", as there are other Wusts as well.
From what I've seen in my rather obsessive research of Wust, it's called that because Wust is no longer a municipality, but was merged with Fischbeck to become Wust-Fischbeck. Wikipedia tells me the merger happened in 2010.
So I was showing RP a couple pictures of the crypt (solely so he could appreciate the difficulty of getting that shot of the piece of paper in Katte's coffin lid and so he could know how much you went above and beyond when it came to satisfying my desire for pictures <3), and explaining how everyone got elaborate sarcophagi and Hans Hermann still has the plain wooden box of a condemned criminal.
And that reminded me that I'd been meaning to ask what was up with that.
Not transferring him to a sarcophagus before 1740, well and good. Not having the time to do it between May 1740 and May 1741, especially with the war on starting November/December 1740, sure.
Ludolf, and especially his heirs who are perfectly fine with people collecting Hans Hermann vertebrae and teeth as souvenirs, I expect nothing less of them.
But what about Bredow stepmom, who apparently made sure both her duel-murdering sons and herself got elaborate tombs placed just so, with her next to her long-dead husband and the sons on either side of the wives? (Far, far apart, as I always notice. :P)
Why didn't stepmom go, "Oh, and oldest stepson who's the reason the new King keeps favoring our family, maybe he should get a nice tomb too"? She had 14 years in which to do that.
Now, personally, *I* actually don't mind that Hans Hermann's coffin is plain, wooden, and stashed in a corner. On aesthetic grounds, it sets him apart, and it reminds me of Küstrin, which gives me feels. (Also, aesthetically, remember that I prefer Wusterhausen to any of the other palaces. :P)
But for someone who knew and (presumably?) loved him, judging by that final letter (though you have to consider the genre), and Prussian honor culture being what it was, I'm surprised that someone who did care enough about elaborate tombs to get one herself and/or for her sons (depending on who made what decision for whom), didn't also decide that Hans Hermann deserved to join the rest of the family in posthumous style, once the King would have been cool with it.
Am trying to figure out Hans Hermann/stepmom dynamics, for that fic where he goes back to visit her when Hans Heinrich is dying, and again when dueling half-brothers kill each other.
Did one of the male members of the family veto it? And if so, why?